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Author:  aDam [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Actor/Actress

I say "actress". Dave tells me it should be "actor".

I accidenttally say "actor". Janine tells me I should say "actress". I agree as that was my intention.

What do you guys think? People say "actress" is disrespectful. I don't think so. It's a word. Gender specific references are simply part of the English language and are ment to clarify. So most other professions don't distinguish. That's not relevant. There's no higher standard for males over females in the acting community.

I think "actor" sounds pretentious and retarded.

We don't call cows bulls out of respect.

Author:  janine [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:21 pm ]
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We don't call cows bulls out of respect.

Not really sure what you are trying to say their, but cow, unless you are refering to a whale, is not gender specific in cattle :p It's heifer and bull ^_~ unless you mean like a bos, cause then you are right....

Author:  aDam [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:14 pm ]
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I thought cow meant girl cow. OKay then um... we don't call heifers bulls out of respect.

What's a bos? Is that like "bass"?

Anyone notice Ed at work calls it "bass" mispronounced like I do?

Author:  Destron [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:39 am ]
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I vote Actress... I will never say "WOW LOOK AT THE ASS ON THAT ACTOR"

...not ever...

a better barnyard alusion would have been hens and Roosters Adam... but yes Cow is like Chicken... its an all inclusive name...

like what the left wing liberal feminists think actor should be...

damn left wing liberal feminists... call them a cum catcher that's what george carlin says to do.

:oops: corse they'd skin you alive if you did....

Author:  aDam [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:40 am ]
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"You don't call chickens cocks as a sign of respect for women."

And what if you're complimenting your own ass as that of a male actor? Like if someone shot me in a school play and I watched it and I would be like, before you ssee my face, "WOW LOOK AT THE ASS ON THAT ACTOR" and then all the ladies present are like "Ye sthat is really a fine ass. I want to wear his ass a a hat. I want to bite his cheaks and give that hunk a rusty trombone." and so forth.

Author:  Mr. Glass [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:50 am ]
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It should be actor. It's demeaning as it is a subset of the word actor (which encompasses all actors and actresses).

Author:  Shwiggie [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:40 pm ]
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Call them thespians and see what happens.

Demeaning? Who gives a damn? They're acting. They're only slightly above musicians in the "I'm a whiney ass artiste dipshit" category.

Author:  aDam [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:45 pm ]
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Do we call women men? Because "woman" is a subset of "man" as in "the museum of man" and stuff like that. In this case the obolishment was to stop using "man" as a generic term and not to stop using "woman". Why the double standard?

Author:  red_surge [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:49 pm ]
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aDam wrote:
I thought cow meant girl cow. OKay then um... we don't call heifers bulls out of respect.

What's a bos? Is that like "bass"?

Anyone notice Ed at work calls it "bass" mispronounced like I do?

Is that because he is from the out East??

Or some other more funny reason like he is touched?

Author:  aDam [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:04 pm ]
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I don't know. He does it with a few words like "heyche" for "H" and... there are others I can't think of off the top of my head.

If he's touched he sure does know his way around computers... or at least is intelligent enough to fake it.

Author:  Darth Croweus [ Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:37 am ]
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I just stick with Thespians to be on the safe side. Plus most take it as a compliment.

Technically it's Actor for both, but most don't really care.

Author:  IDE [ Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:49 pm ]
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I say actress because that's what I think is right but I think technically they're supposed to be actors (at least I'm pretty sure that's the old school thought on the matter within their sphere). There kind of is a higher standard held for male actors over female in the movie business in respect to their ability to "open a movie" that is to provide a gigantic opening weekened draw based on their name alone. I'm not sure what women can do it now, the last time I looked at the numbers Julia Roberts was one of (if not the only) woman capable of being an opener, but I think that was 5 years ago.

Author:  aDam [ Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:34 pm ]
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I really don't see how them not being able to pull in money has anything to do with their name. It's not as if Mary Kate Olsen would all of a sudden be able to break opening weekend records if we called her an actor instead of an actress... nt that anyone would consider her to be an actress...

Author:  IDE [ Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:00 pm ]
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oh yeah the term makes no difference. I'm just saying there is a difference between the sexes in a certain professional perspective. And now dig this crazy theory: Maybe, because of this difference it's slightly advantageous for women to be called actors so as to differentiate themselves as little as possible from their more successful opener male counterparts. Or more likely it would make no difference what so ever.

edit: which is pretty much what you just said.

Author:  aDam [ Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:42 pm ]
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Yeah... it's not like we're still in old times where they got young boys to play female characters in plays or anything. The difference between hiring a male or female for a role are based solely on the sex of the character...

... except in any sort of comedic role where 99% of heterosexual women are incapable of delivering a funny line.

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